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[Boerseun]

Well, now.

Now we have heard from two of MagnetMan's kids. It seems that if MagnetMan can't win his arguments from authority (like he's been trying to), he calls in the cavalry and tries to make his stand through sheer volume (if not content).

So - to recap: MagnetMan came to Hypo, with the sole intent of selling his wares. His wares was in the form of a book called psyche-genetics. He kept on making references towards his book, and when asked for clarification, kept on saying that there's no point in retyping the whole thing, you had to buy the book to know what he was on about. And when conflicting viewpoints rose, a patronising arrogant attitude was used such as "you sound like a twelve year old", or (even in this thread, a couple 'o posts ago) "one day you will grow up as well". Eventually MagnetMan started posting little bits of his threory, and some meaningless schematics. I even went to his site that's got a forum that's moderated by one of his kids, with about zero visitors and zero posts to go see what it's all about. This site, this so-called 'theory' contains such choice tidbits such as:

We will be in direct contact with
spiritual beings seeking rebirth and experience the joy of bringing them down to Earth, to be loved and guided by
us on their path to full self-realization.

We will assume our seat at the Center of Galactic
Command as Companions of a United God. We will be able to assume any form at will and translocate to
wherever we wish, back and forward through Time and Space.

Should the Psyche-Genetic premise prove to resonate with the general population, it will resolve the current
debate over Intelligent Design

Twenty five centuries later, particle physicists endorsed the atomic polarity of nuclear energy – but have yet to
acknowledge that the atom is intrinsically charismatic – that it has a conscious Soul.

The charismatic effect of consciousness on matter has been obliquely confirmed by the use of charismatic
terms, such as charm and beauty and strangeness, in an attempt to characterize the undeterminable behavioral
anomalies observed during experiments in quantum mechanics.

...
The list goes on. The relevance of his philosophy to science is unclear to me. At the most, it might be called 'religious', at the least, it indicates an incredibly weak understanding of science, religion, quantum physics, etc.

So, after he shared the incredible way in which he raised his kids, I called him a nut. And I still stick to it, no matter what price I'll have to pay, because he's not here to participate in any meaningful way in science-related debate or discussions, MagnetMan is here solely for pimping his book, the one that contains more of the bullshit laid out above. Initially, we had a good chat over PM seeing as he's from my neck 'o the woods, until I started seeing his attitude and take on criticism. I gave couple of jabs in the "Africa & Colonialism" thread, and got this in PM:

Originally Posted by MagnetMan

As you know I have ulterior motives here, with every intention of roping you in and hogtieing you to my way of thinking. Will be very disappoinnted if you do not have Psyche-Genetics on order, or you will be forcing me to rewrite the whole damn book in response to your pokes.

Is that how debates are run? Is this an example of an 'open mind'? Whenever anything is being debated, MagnetMan is looking for an angle to pimp his book. That is simply not constructive towards the debate, and is not the intention of how Hypography should be run.

When MagnetMan introduced himself initially, he also complained to me that he's been on plenty forums, and keeps getting banned. You don't happen to see a trend here, MagnetMan? Maybe the issue don't lie with intolerant moderators and administrators, maybe the issue lies with your incredibly arrogant and disrespectful attitude, being very intolerant of any form of criticism and critique.

And kids, hate telling this to you, but the 'Tokalosh' is actually spelt 'Tokolosh', or if you're a bona fide zulu, iTokolosh, and is an evil spirit. Black superstitious people in South Africa actually raise their beds off the floors on paint cans, bricks, anything they can to make it hard for the Tokolosh to hide there undetected. So that's your Karma, then. Interesting. But scary, nonetheless. Karmas and spiritual things have nothing to do with science, and shouldn't be on a science forum. I also read in your dad's post that you kids have had ESP training. I have asked your dad for links or resources towards that, but up till now I have heard nothing. ESP (and related bullshit like telekinesis) have been repeatedly blown out of the water by that evildoer, the "SCIENTIFIC METHOD". It falls under pseudoscience. Also known as 'party tricks', 'smoke and mirrors', or my personal favourite, 'utter bullshit'. Pick one.

After the above, I still stick to my guns. MagnetMan is failing miserably to actively and productively contribute anything at all without pimping his wares, and that to me is a transgression of Hypo's rules. Me calling him a nut is another transgression of Hypo's rules. I'll live with the consequences, and will not apologize.

So - we should ask ourselves: Is Hypo going to maintain the efforts of being a serious site for seriously discussing science-related issues, or are we going to allow each man and his dog to pimp his delusions here? Without any proof? What is Hypo exactly? And advertising board for nutjobs? I think not, and I haven't experienced it as such for the last thousand-odd posts over the last year or so - but this is getting ridiculous.