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Originally Posted by Kayra
perfectly I would think

Those best suited to survive the bird flu.. will.
I can't see Darwin's theory working that well in the 20C.
Has anyone ever though virus's may have their own agenda?
or
that modern medicine may have skewed the Whole Harmonious System?

First send all your youngest, best, child bearing age people to war, kill them. Then follow up with bird flu and wipe out another 18 million of both sexes at child bearing age. Kill those with the best immune systems. Perhaps the Viruses are selecting us by getting rid of those with good immune systems?

Start another war next generation, drop an atomic bomb or two.
To me fittest means those that are fit, not those that disappear from some random, man-made historical event like War.


It seems the 20C is selecting for old and decrepit.
These are the ones that are surviving.

Those from northern Europe have some protection against AIDs from historical brushes with many plagues. Those in Africa do not. I can see natural selection working here. But what are we losing? The fastest and finest Athletes come from Africa. (along with some genes for malaria resistance) Is that sensible evolution? I guess it does not need to be "sensible" but you have to ask "Who is winning here?"

My Grandmother, born in Ireland, was one of 13 children. Her six brothers died in WW1, her 6 sisters died in the bird flu outbreak of 1918.
She left her mother and migrated with her husband to Australia. So how does that make me fit?perhaps it might if i developed "Pacifist Genes"?
I may have an aboriginal link on Grandfather's side(not talked about) which gives me lactose, sucrose and fructose intolerance that no doctor wants to know about. How does this make me fit for 20C?

I think random appropriation of interesting genes via bacteria and viruses and blind luck,is a better explanation of evolution than Darwin's Natural Selection. (you can include a bit of it in the 20c mix) It is far too simple and neat a theory.
It may have worked before we had modern medicine to save people from birth problems(EG prematurity etc),and old age problems(heart disease, cancer).What about vaccination for say smallpox, how is this "natural selection"?
How does IVF gel with Darwin? Those denied fertility by genetics are helped produce by science. where is the "natural selection" in that?
Modern sanitary engineering is saving us lucky ones from Cholera and other nasty bacteria (along with anti-biotics). How is this preparing us for the rise of the eventual super bug?
Our pigs are fatter because of penicillin. How is this helping Natural Selection"

Of course if you question Darwin you are immediately branded a religious fundamentalist...


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