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[paigetheoracle]

Life is a sequence of events. We need to sit on the fence to see and understand both sides of the argument. Those involved in a fight lose sight of the truth in their passionate unilateralism. Only the dispassionate, standing back back from the situation, can see it for what it is, which the emotionally charged (involved) always fail to see because they're too busy acting to look.

The wise learn - the foolish have to be taught the same lesson again and again, until the pain of their own ignorance eventually forces them to change ('People do not change until the pain of staying the same, outweighs the pain of altering' The Tao/ 'Groundhog Day').

War follows peace, action follows thought and demolition follows building (The old is always cleared away to make way for the new - these are the simple mechanics as far as I can see and moral stances are just words that stop nothing as far as I can see, sadly).

To return to my last post, where would medical science, surgical techniques and forensics be - if emotional 'repulsion' had pushed the innovators in these fields away from exploration? Can I stop the violence in The Middle East? No but at least I can control my own feelings, to stop them clouding my senses and judgement about the situation.

The truth is that whether we like it or not war (like prostitution) has been with us since civilization came into existence and before that personal and tribal violence: Sex and violence are part and parcel of life and we need to understand our drives to control them as condemnation is just joining in the violence, only verbally (hypocrisy in action or 'It's nothing to do with me!').

Prejudice talks in terms of good and bad, pro and anti (movement towards or away from in Taoism). Science deals deals with neutral facts or in philosophical terms truth (sames, similars and differents).

Looking at my own life I see that the sense of panic that arises in me and leads to anger and violence, comes about through a feeling of, lack of time. When we feel we have all the time in the world, we sit and dream of what we're going to do someday but when it looks like that 'someday' will never arrive, we feel stimulated into action and God help anybody who gets in our way! (The driven, no matter what the cause or form it takes, are the violence creators in the world and this is what we need to understand and deal with - poverty of mind, body and spirit).

Violence is understandable but never justifiable (There is no morality in war, only in peace and that comes from self-control - this includes crime, which is class warfare or addiction driven action: Think of New York in the 60's and now).