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Re: Is Health Insurance Socialism?

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Originally Posted by Freddy View Post
First, the Declaration of Independence is dead document with zero legal implications for the US. Concerning the US Constitution, the supreme law of the land, one need only to read the Preamble, which has equal weight with any other part of the Constitution, to see the intent of the founders.

"The Constitution of the United States of America"

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The cost of government includes; "promote the general welfare", which means help Americans in need. Since Congress has established through its law making power laws that protect those in need they are the law of the land until struck down by the federal courts or changed by Congress later.
first; the US, laws are with in the structure of the constitution and the amendments. it is not dead, very much alive and part of our existence. we are proud of it and desire no changes. no city, state or federal law can go outside this document. the process to go beyond these guidelines has been tested more times than you might think.

the words "promote" and "provide" mean different things. from the writing of those who formed the document we have come to accept this as creating the atmosphere or encouragement, but non-interference. the word provide, has a very differing meaning, which is government and protection.

Americans in need. who is it to determine this fallacy. if Bill Gates needs a new house, i am sorry its up to him to buy it. if you need a new liver, this should be up to you. if a person is a citizen and has not achieved whatever i have, its not up to me to provide him/her what ever they consider needs.

by the way your quoting the pre-amble of, not the constitution. that is the reason for not the mechanism...
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