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Old 02-19-2007   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Does God exist?

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Originally Posted by phoenixbyrd View Post
No, technically things do exist despite you observing them or not. Take away all sentient beings, heck ... all life, and what happens? The universe still ticks away doing what it's been doing for many many years before life ever arose.

I was merely speaking on the root linguistics of the terms. That was accurate. But even then the hypothetical "existence" of unobserved phenomena is still observed as mental recognition and therefore "observed" in the mind.

My point is latin and spanish have different verbs "to be" where english only has one. If you look at the roots of those two verbs in latin the meaning is different when you say something "IS" or "exists".

Whats weird is when you look at this technically God can "BE" but God cannot "exist". If God were to "exist" God must be directly observed, and God is by definition beyond even mental observation.

essence (root esse- to be)
Online Etymology Dictionary

existence (root sistere- to stand forth)
Online Etymology Dictionary

essence = permanent "is" (spanish Ser)
existence= observed qualities (spanish Estar)


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