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[KickAssClown]

I quite enjoyed your explanation, Drum. It hit some of my points of contention, but missed a few others. Obviously missed two of my major points of contention. Kudos though.

Originally Posted by Drum

Just for the moment forget about the photon and replace it with an electron. Electrons have negative charge ..

Drum, I know you haven't been here at hypography long enough to necessarily read my other posts regarding the nature of mass-energy, space-time, charge and matter.

Consider a simple correspondence fact about the photon and electron. They both have mass-energy and thus are identified as forms of matter. The difference between them is minor when you go into it far enough. They both have net charge, mass-energy, spin, etc (same property-types).

Now consider that the detector, the slits, and the barrier are all composed of material, that is they all have the properties of net charge, mass-energy, spin, etc.

By identity the electrons, photons, neutrons, and protons have no formal property differences from one another. That is they all have the same properties, though different variances in the values of those properties.

Why is this all important? Well if we conjecture for a moment that our emitted particle, box, barrier, slit and detector are a homogeneous soup of matter varying only in values of properties, how are we to discern that the particle we shoot is the particle we catch?

Which I surmise in my question of "why must I accept that the particle went through the slits at all?"

Classical physics sees the particle as one single piece (or collection of tightly held pieces); Quantum physics retains but refines this picture of the particle. I question the very validity of that model.

What I am questioning is the results of a material experiment within which I believe that certain key factors are being neglected, such as the very structure of matter at it's fundament.

Neither Classical physics, nor Quantum physics give a satisfactory explanation (theory) of matter. Here is a challenge. Give me two seperate theories of matter. One classical and one quantum. Preferably from the standard model.

Thanks for listening and I look forward to your reply.

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