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[arkain101]

Possibly I could add to this with a bit of a philisophical insight.

In past deep contemplation I have been forming a relative perspective theory. Some details are as follows.

Every thing (such as an object) that we know and that makes sense to us is not an actual object. On the contrary everything that we know of that exists is a mental construct. It may have mass, it may have energy, but there is no such thing as an actual particle or wave other than in the concept of the mind, which of course, is not part of physics. Yet, this is what physics has long been studying, the mental constructs we call our world.

As for the objects or 'things' that truly exist outside of a mental construct, such as the near core quantum wave functions, they are on the contrary, non-things relative to what our mental construct refers to what a thing is.

Therefore, each realm or reality if you will, them being, the mental macro interpratatoin and the micro quantum measuremental, are non-existent relative to each other.

That is, to our mind, the quantum wave functions are non particle and not wave, yet either, or both.

To the quantum wave functions, our macro world is unrelavent, non-required or existent.

Therefore, when we apply this to such things as what is a particle? or what is matter, mass, energy or any of those things, we find that anything we know is a mentally constructed thing.

But here is the duality of this situation. Even though this hypothesis is theoretically correct and legal, it is the very things that we turn to and reflect upon as to what is real, and what is observable.

For example the moon circles the earth. Yes, surely it does we can observe this mentally.

But the moon is not a thing, nor does it contain a particle. The moon as all material things are is a series of observable and measureable levels of confident reality. Patterns if you will pieced together to form reason out of.

We have levels of such like; Moon body, moon dust, moon atoms, moon electrons, moon gravity, moon mass, etc.

Though non of this is physically true relative to the quantum matter perspective. Rather the moon is a density of time and thus, a concentration of mass-energy. Apply much more than this description would be to apply the now so called rediculous idea that the moon is actually made of something.

So where does this rabbit hole lead? It takes you deep into no mans land. Precisely where science has found itself. Full of grand and fantastic, imaginative ideas and theories of strings and endless dimensions of foundationless reason. So this rabbit hole which I bring forth infact leads you to a mirror. This is the as if the mobius loop of your mind meeting matter. This being a 1/2 twisted strip with 1 side required to make two trips around to make a full rotatoin. You may put mind on one side of the strip and matter on the other side, but you will find that as you move along the strip, they are on the same side. Mind stuff and matter stuff being intwined if you will.

The rabbit hole tells you, you've met your maker, something entirely non-existent relative to existing 'things'.

Thus you must bounce back to the macro world and conclude, that self, your own aware self of being, is the deepest and most fundamental aspect of reality.

Einstien has a famous quote I am sure many of us are familiar with, that goes along the lines of;

"I want to know how god thinks, the rest...they're just details."

I presume to explain, that in the context of his statement, he answered his question without realising it. How god thinks if you will (understanding how this all works), is the macroscopic world you see before you, the oneness of all stages and levels of understanding.

Neither macro or micro are material, nor mind or awareness, the entire thing is an enigma.

Which is why I think many of us naturally cling to a god or spiritual handle of support.

Because the macro world is the only world for us to wisely call the place of focus and understanding however facinating and useful it is to understand internal mechanisms.

So, it would be wise to be questionable of the so called written in stone conclusions science beleives it has made throughout its history in order to have science leap forward with guidence and understanding in its future persuit.