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Re: Defining the nature of rational discussion!

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all I am asking is that you lay down those maps and listen to what I have to say. The issue is, what options do we have when it comes to drawing such a map.

But really, the point of this thread was to establish exactly what I mean by a rational discussion (which could very well be a waste of time). I have some things to say and would like to find someone willing to have a “rational discussion” with me: i.e., discuss a simple logical argument without throwing emotionally generated road blocks into the conversation every third line (let us not concern ourselves with the validity of our beliefs).
I shall try.
"what options do we have when it comes to drawing such a map?"
I've had an inkling that's where we're going with this. Hell, I've probably been standing on top of it the whole time.

That presumes I have an understanding of the process of drawing it. And if I do, wouldn't that mean that I was dealing with part of the map?

Ok, so that understanding is necessarily limited. Like a dim outline.

Wouldn't it be true (how do I get away from using a term like that? And when I say 'true', I mean it more along the lines of a carpenter's level.) that the option to 'suspend all my beliefs' enters in here? I don't have a problem with that. It scares me sometimes that I think I can do that quite easily.

That implies that the map reflects the filters of belief.

doesn't it? What are other options?
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