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Originally Posted by freeztar
I wasn't discussing charcoal or sequestration. I know your views on fossil fuels and I certainly was not implying that you thought rampant coal burning was ok. Gore is a whole different topic as well. 
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You misunderstood my rebuttal to your rebuttal.
I am not referring to what we can change, rather to the fact that poor estimates -poor by anyone's estimation because it is lacking*- of the extent of underwater volcanism and hydrothermal vents and their biotic colonies, means the models of the whole system using or not using those (presumably underestimated) values is by necessity increasing the apparent % of influence of other known sources of CO2 & it's ilk. If too little of the contribution is attributed to these 2 underwater systems then too much is logically accorded to the usuasl suspects. It's worth repeating that the biota at hydrothermal vents, the extent of which is unknown, are fixing CO2 at a happy rate. Is that part of the CO@ cycle in the models?
* note one of my links put the unknown underwater volcanoes at 60%
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Originally Posted by Freezmaster
Good questions. 
Rhetoric that marginalizes and minimizes?
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Yes thank you, & the general rebuttal rhetoric, not your own impeccable personal rhetoric. I refer to the same slippery words and phrases they use to recuse the disenting view; words like 'unlikely', 'mostly', 'little if at all' , or 'almost all...'.
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Originally Posted by Freezeneer
[Scottish accent]We're givin'er all she's got Capt'n[/Scottish accent]
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You got that right. And then there's the heat of the engine room. If no one knows how many volcanoes underwater, fur sure, or hydrothermal vents, fur sure, then we have yet another serious accountiung error about where the heat is coming from that the bad ol' gasses are trapping. Lucy! You got some splainin' ta do!!!
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Originally Posted by Freezator
Nobody serious can claim that "it's all about CO2", Turtle, and no one has made that claim here.
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I wouldn't touch that one with a 10 foot poll.
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