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Old 03-29-2004   #15 (permalink)
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RE:GOD

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Originally posted by: Tim_Lou
God, is the ultimate, the source of everything.

god is light, god is power,
OK, there IS light and there IS power, so if this is what god is, then yes there is god,. (just like my def about a stain). But I do not see where this is of any value if we are talking about the typical monotheistic supernatural entity meaning of god.

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for everything is part of god.
everything? so god is also hate, evil, cancer, torture, murder, infanticide, starvation, ...

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people dont believe in god, is because there is no evidence that god exist.

but there is not really an evidence that prove god doesnt exist.
This is the argument fallacy of "shifting the burden of proof". Anyone that takes Philosophy 101 KNOWS it is impossible to prove non-existence. The statement does not even make sense.

Everything was created by the great Invisible Pink Unicorn. You will find much information on the IPU on the net. Now prove I am wrong.

OK, so the idea is that the IPU can not be "disproven" either. But just like ANY OTHER such claim. It is not up to you to DISprove the IPU's existence, it is up to ME, as the person making the claim of existence, to provide enough proof of the IPU's existence to make it worth even discussing it.

Thus when you ADMIT:

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people dont believe in god, is because there is no evidence that god exist.
That is all ANYONE needs to outright reject even discussing the existence of something that lacks ANY valid evidence of it's existence.

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everyone experience god,
Yes, but laundry soap takes care of it.

[/quote]but the knowledge in our brains cannot admit it thus questions it and deny it.[/quote]

too many internal contradictions in this statement to even begin to cover.

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if you question god, god doesnt exist,
so your god is so weak that even bringing it into question destroys it? Hardly what I would consider a worthwhile god! What other failings does your god have?

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god is the person that we blame
ah yes, the core of the god concept. Someone/thing to blame. As Bertrand Russell said, only one heart in a thousand is pure enough to be an Atheist. It is a matter of willingness to accept full personal resonsibility. As an Atheist, I accept full personal responsibility. Unlike a believer that is always ready to have:

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god (as) the person that we blame
This world (the one we KNOW actually existws) would be a much better place if we all fully accepted personal resposibility, rather than find some god to blame.

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...there must be something that is the sources of everything. since everything came out from something.
I simple course in Quantum Mechanics will help you shed this fallacy. (if ANY QM cource could be considered simple)

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for those who dont believe anyone kind of god, the life became lifeless. there is nothing after life, everything came from something dead.... so, y not assume that there is a god and you will feel better about the world and have a different view point of it.
you have it exactly 180. when one accepts any of the various superstitions that present a god offering an afterlife, THIS life beconmes secondary. Believers must adopt the absolutely most selfish life approach of achieving PERSONAL salvation. to "assujme" anything else is responsible for things only allows you to live a less than full and complete life. I would never waste my life that way.


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