Moontanman,
"You say we need to stop carbon emissions with in thirty years. If we did the things that are necessary to do this without cutting our noses off to spite our faces then I would say yes." -whoops, that Zythryn's
See soil sequestration above, #349
"Everyone wants less government but no one can really deliver such a thing."
No, I think you missed my point.
Not less government, but better (different?) government is needed.
"Now we occupy every inch of arable land on the earth as well as most of the least desirable land."
Now with modern medicine to combat River Blindness, whole river valleys have been recently populated.
More unsustainable growth....
"Even if everyone on the earth lived in near poverty there would still not be enough to go around."
Actually, there is enough to support 9 Billion quite easily, if managed well and fairly. [Anybody know where I heard that?]
"We will kill the ecosystem of this planet if not with technology then with shear numbers. "
Yes, unless we change our ways (starting about 40 years ago...).
"While the continents were in this position we have had ice ages and warm interglacial periods."
Yes, but still more stable and habitable than in the more distant past.
"Warm would at least seem to be better for us than an ice age for sure!"
I completely disagree; but that's a whole 'nother Topic!
"We can't help but influence the Earth in one way or another so why shouldn't we do what is best for the human race instead the individual?" -MTM
Yes, we agree! I better stop there.
~Thanks Moon, I hope what I wrote above doesn't sound too self-righteous. I'm still open to discuss any point in detail.
