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Re: Origin of the Universe,,,,Bang or no Bang

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Originally Posted by Mike C View Post
In what way does the SSU violate the 2nd Law?

The SSU is a closed system of both matter and energy.

New photons are created to replace the 'expanded' photons that eventually lose their energy as they leave the universe in a spent state.

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Mike, are you confusing 'closed' system, there by creating a reason for energy loss (beyond confines of the U) to being, not energy (spent or lost effect by expanding).

BBT, suggest a closed system, where space is created in expansion. Half the theory falls to energy results in a closed system. If energy leaves the U, as is, just not spent, it would mean nothing, unless there is a mass loss. If there are no other U or something beyond our limits for matter formation, nothing tangible to use or dispose of this energy, it would simply travel into infinity, as should space itself does.

Energy requires mass to form and energy requires mass to use itself, but energy is not dependent or required for existence to mass. When matter is being formed, the energy is not gathered from space, but then creating new energy to the limits of the mass being formed.

Maybe I have missed something, but I always figured you thought the U was limited in size, for lack of matter and positioned in space which is infinite. If you close the system or separate open space to what the U exist in, I see as many problems as I do with BBT. Personally, I don't think a finite U is required for SSU or that multiverses do/don't exist are important, but infinite space is very important....My thoughts anyway.
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