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[alexander]

Actually i will reply to the original message, if you guys don't mind, i didn't ignore your posts, but i feel the greater emotion on the original thread, therefore i shall express it (i will touch on reply discussions)

This claim appears in various forms around here. Is science close-minded?

You know, i was about to make this thread too, because lately, i've been reading more and more about this topic, and it seems that its almost to every other thread, every thread in the strange claims forum, where people have been posting that science is close-minded. And i'm tired of being turned away from the original intent of a topic when this get's discussed.

But before i say that science is NOT close-minded, and the fact that i partly agree with Reason, on the fact that science is a method, i would like to first describe the people who post comments in question.

First category of which falls on people with overactive imaginations. And i don't mean that in a bad way, but just because you like to read science fiction, it does not mean that you have any right to insult scientist, nor that you can easily question their motivation in responding the way they do (and that is because i don't think i'm a scientist... at least i dont think i can justify the title to myself). Listen, scientists don't mind that you believe in little green man-like creatures that visit us on these circular ships that spin and wobble in the sky, the dwell just beyond that focus area on the camera, and sometimes in the dark sky near an airforce base. There is nothing wrong in your beliefs, i don't think that i would be overgeneralizing this, but i truly think that there are other life forms out there, and i bet scientists would agree. But when you present us with a crop circle, and say, here is evidence (i know now i'm speaking on behalf of scientists), you can not assume that we will simply look at it, say "Looks good to me" and consider it a fact!!??!! Scientists try to disprove things by default, to us it is not true, until every possible other explanation is exhausted, so we laugh, because we are simply not willing to examine the evidence. Why? we have better things to do, there is only so much time to do so much stuff, if we waste it on things that are highly probably not true anyways, we won't have time to find things that may help humans, and honestly we have more prominent problems on hand, now, our supply of oil is ever-so-dwindling away, pollution is very high, we are on the brink of another evolutionary break, honestly, little green men, are not on our top list of priorities, atm.

Second people that say this, are the religious folk. Once again, we have no problems with you guys, if you want to think that the world is flat, we care little for it; my biggest problem is your stoopid need to preach things you believe, especially if it contradicts the math on my paper! And the more my math is correct, the more you tend to preach about what you think the right solution is. I have no problems with religion, at all, but why do you not follow the scriptures yourselves. Christians, why do you blatantly believe in Christ being God, but don't follow any of real teachings, why do you think that the Bible, undoubtably being written by people, and plagiarized in parts, and having a clear history of change, why do you insist that it's a straight word of God? You complain about being banned, but you are not willing to be open minded about your world, why should we listen to you if we know what your response is going to be; ignorant of anything of what we have told you that has REAL proof, mumbling away the scriptures, and still trying to call US?! close-minded? WTF, you believe in a handful of books, written over a few hundred years by people trying to control promitive human beings outside of law enforcement, scriptures that have time and time again proved to be wrong, scriptures that have predicted things that have never happened, and shed blood of more people then any of the major conflicts have killed? We have thousands of years worth of books, calculations, observations, explanations, backed up by sometimes not-so-simple math, and shown to work in real life, by prediction and further observation.

Science is not close minded, it is a methods by which an open minded individual, has to keep on being open minded, in order to describe what he observes, in an attempt to accurately predict the behaviour of his currently investigated phenomenon.

Stop calling us close minded, you are doing so, because your world, the world you live in, that does not follow logic, and is powered by imagination of others, seems to not comply with what we observe...