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Originally Posted by freeztar
So what do you suggest specifically? How should physics lift it's "artificially tightly restricted" views to allow for "testing for purpose"?
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Good challenge! I have written elsewhere about my approach to this problem; however, I recognize that my opinion about that has nothing to do with whether or not science is close minded. All I can offer at this point is to suggest that the 'artificially tightly restricted' view presented by theoretical physics is a low level mechanical interpretation of the operation of the universe. It is useful for solving mechanical type problems. I see mechanical type action as being subservient to to a greater type of action that has the potential to produce intelligent life. Purpose is a part of intelligence. I think we need a different kind of thinking that seeks to find the properties that are capable of producing intelligence. Empirically, it cannot be tested for with equipment that can only make mechanical type measurements. It is going to require reasoning at a level that is freed from a materialistic belief system. I do not offer this idea as some sort of clear climatic conclusion to the discussion that has taken place in this thread. It can be ended simply with my contention that progress in this direction is currently hindered by the level of respect lauded upon theoretical physics as representing our most fundamental science.
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Hold on, I thought we were talking about physics?
So you are saying that DNA has an underlying purpose to build intelligent life. Implying that intelligent life arrived through a purpose begs the question, why? What is the purpose? How did this purpose come to be? These are all good things to ponder, but can we ever really know the answer to this? I doubt it. That the case, physics, or any other science, doesn't deal with purpose. Science leaves that to philosophy and theology.
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Again, I have written about this elsewhere, but I don't think it belongs in this thread. In any case, I wouldn't even try to accomplish such a thing in short form.
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Of course, your argument hinges on whether or not there *is* purpose. I don't see how you were able to move past this question and assume, or believe, that there is an underlying purpose to everything.
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You are correct. My interest in this thread had to do only with challenging any declared facts of theoretical physics and exposing scientific close mindedness about physics theory if it existed here. Once we move beyond (I would say become freed from) theoretical physics, then there are no tests about patterns in changes of velocity that I can use to explain purpose, intelligence, and life. It will require logic and understanding that goes beyond the fruits of mechanical apparatus and mathematical models.
James
