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[alexander]

Originally Posted by James

Make things better for others to the degree that you can.

Thank's for the advise, and don't take me wrong, i'm not depressed, i've been in this dissapointed about society as a whole, mood for many years now, but it doesn't mean that i don't do anything, i have said before, somewhere on these forums, i have a few goals in life, and none of them will ever be accomplished, simply due to the fact that they are non-accomplishable. First one is to never stop learning. I love learning, the more i learn, the more i want to learn, i find myself being pulled in so many directions of things i'd like to know, but i am rather time-constricted, so i end up having to make a choice at some point... Second is i try to educate others. And generally, the smarter the person i educate, the more satisfaction i get out of it, if i get someone who knows a lot about something, something they did not know, then my day was not spent for nothing. My big reason for sticking around here... Lastly, i live to make someone's life better, it doesn't matter who's life either, as long as they are good people, if i can help, i tend to at least try...

So in reply, i stride for that, James, it doesn't stop me from looking at humanity from a third perspective, it doesn't stop my frustration with the social structure, or most people's raison d'etre, so to speak...

But it's still off topic, if you want, i'll discuss this at greater length with you somewhere in philosophy, just PM me the link, plz

Originally Posted by MikeC

Influence dollars can control the content. This is a form of censorship.

Influence dollars is a way to censor "n" scientist's research direction, it's not a way to "hijack" science...

Once again, what do influence dollars do? They will shift the attention of the top-paid scientists in whichever field, to a subject that was not the object of view prior. Fistly this will generally not stop their devotion to their research prior to the influence, generally speaking. Secondly, more money means the more they will spend on trying to do the science, right.

This in no way hijacks's someone's thought, it may hijack "n"s person's attention, for some time, but it does not move the direction of "scientific thought" in any direction in the long run.

Originally Posted by freez

Science is amenable to change.

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Scientist like this are the keeper’s of science as the rational high ground by pointing out the difference between science and faith, but also by not directly attacking religions.

Here's my problem with this thread already. How come, every thread about science, turns into a thread where science is put up against religion. I mean honestly, i ask everyone who picks fights with religious folk, do we seriously have nothing better to do then bash religion? (and by we, i mean scientists, and i don't quite think i make the grade)

Originally Posted by Moon

While I do not agree with much you say I have to admit this is true, very much true.

but do you agree with his wording of that prior to that post, do you think that science can be hijacked (in all seriousness of that word) by influence dollars?

Originally Posted by lots of people

Einstein's theory

you said it yourselves, its a Theory, that word implies that science thinks that it may not be true, and hey if James comes up with a theory that better describes the phenomena that Einstein described, and can be used to more accurately predict the outcome of the same events, then we may very well have a Putnam theory of relativity... Wait, James, do you believe in relativistic reference frames?
You see, science is a beleifistic (meaning beleif-based) as religion is, it's basically philosophy mixed with high-level math, the big difference is that science is prone to constant change in what people believe in, mostly nothing is set in stone, only the constants.... and science sometimes follows strict logic rules.