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Re: Science is close-minded

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I'm not saying that there is no justification for doing it, i'm just tired of posts being dragged from proper discussion, into the same road we've been down a hundred times, if not more... Yes it needs to be refuted, but it almost never ends in any one being defeated, in their minds, even the folk that leave the conversation, still think that their version is right, why? They are brainwashed to do so, you are trying to convince someone who has never questioned, to follow the logic of a person who has already answered....
You make good points, alex. I understand what you are saying. I have felt the same way.

One thing I keep reminding myself though, is that these threads aren't just viewed by those that are posting to them. They are exposed to the world. And while those of us who have stuck around realize the repetitiveness of science/theology debates, new people keep coming here making the same old claims unaware of the fact that they've already been hashed out ad nauseum. So they continually have to be addressed.

One obvious alternative that I have seen used is to simply decide not to engage someone, and instead direct them to some other previous thread on the subject, or suggest that they conduct a search and get caught up first. But it never seems to fail that we are compelled to challenge some particular point.....and here we go.


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Originally Posted by Thunderbird;
Science is fascinating, studying religion I also find interesting but they are two separate paradigms.
They absolutely are, and thus they should not be mixed.
I have rasied this point in this and other threads as well and I completely agree that distinctions should be made. I have tried to avoid sounding judgemental towards someone's faith, but sometimes that's what they hear when their deeply held beliefs are challenged or questioned.

I guess it's really the role of the Mods to recognize when discussions get off track, and and while I think the Mods here are good at that, they invariably are accused of being closed-minded for shutting the door on someone's argument or claim that is unfounded, or beside the point of the discussion at hand.

Thus the creation of this thread.


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It seems to me that people tend to prefer to believe what they want to be real or true, despite evidence to the contrary.

When what you believe is refuted by evidence, you are faced with a choice.
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