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Originally Posted by sanctus
And murder can be ethical. By your definition ethical it is if it is logically derived (without theological interferences), there are heaps of logical derivation why a nurder could be ethical. Example: if I don't kill him he might potentially kill me, I don't want to risk that, so I kill him (by this reasoning I should eventually kill all life). It is very logic and without theology.
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I disagree. The word murder is specifically defined as an unlawful killing. Acts of war, capital punishment, self defense and/or self preservation are all lawful acts and do not fall under the umbrella of murder. Outside of this list, I can think of few reasons that homicide could be considered righteous, justifiable or ethical. Killing a killer to save the lives of others would be an example. I could also understand a killing of passion or vengeance to avenge the killing of family or friends, but would not particularly agree that it's ethical, even if it might be righteous or justifiable.
I can also imagine cases of self preservation that I would not consider ethical or honorable, even if technically legal. Imagine being trapped on a deserted island with one of your own children with only enough food for one and then starving or killing your child to save yourself. In the same situation I would not even necessarily considerate it honorable or ethical to outright kill a stranger just save yourself, even though I might understand why somebody would.
Just my 2¢,
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