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Re: Claims by Schauberger, claims about him, fringe science and conspiracy theories
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Originally Posted by paigetheoracle
Fair comment - one government can be as bad as another and employ any means at its disposal to get its own way, like any schoolboy bully will. It is well known about the Germans attempt to get nuclear weapons and bomb America, so it is logical that they may have passed on the results of their work to their allies.
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It's difficult for me to see the comparison of the US abs Japan in the second world as just neighborhood bullies trying to get their own way. I think the Japanese of that time were indeed bent on world domination no matter how many people had to die top make their dream a reality. the US was indeed attacked and dragged into the war. Even the Japanese admiral who launched the attack on pear Harbor thought it was a mistake to awaken the sleeping giant of the US. I don't really see any other alternative for the US or it's allies in that war.
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Depleted uranium shells were apparently used by both British and American forces in tanks and possibly artillery weapons. There was a big stink about it at the time of the invasion and just after, when deformed babies started being born in Iraq (I'm sure there are still sites on the internet about it, if you want to research it). I remember that it was claimed they were used because they pierced armour better than conventional shells. The effects on the civilian population however turned out to be more devastating over time as mentioned because explosions sent vapourised particles into the air.
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Yes I've seen that stuff and it is blown way out of proportion at the very least. Depleted uranium is poisonous and should not have been used but its not the radioactive horror that was portrayed in many of the articles about it's use. Uranium is far more poisonous as a heavy metal, it's radioactivity is not a big deal when compared with it's chemical toxicity. Depleted uranium wasn't used on Iraq to kill the by standers it was used because it makes a good tank killer weapon. Depleted uraniunm is used in armor pearcing shells only, It makes an ideal armor pearcing round. It is not used because it is poisonous. It was intended to be used in a nuclear war with the soviets in a battle theater where chemical biological and nuclear weapons would make depleted uranium look a vitamin. Some where down the line decisions were made that to the rest of us made no sense. Depleted uranium armor piercing rounds should have been replaced by less poisonous tungsten shells. They weren't but I honestly don't think there was a group of people who sat back and decided that the use of depleted uranium was a good thing because it would cause collateral deaths.
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Schaubergers idea falls in with cold fusion (implosion) as opposed to nuclear explosions and fission: Logically he was right - implosion forms matter(productionism - energy to matter)/ explosion destroys it (reductionism - matter blasted to bits). As for his other ideas being lost in time - why did the American and Canadian Governments 'steal' his patents, if they were worthless? As for very little of his work being written down - the French Linguist Saussure suffered from the same thing but is still considered a genius in his field. Entrepeneurs are creative business people who succeed because they are not held back by education that tells them what they can or can't do (What is or isn't possible) and so it is with people on the fringe. This is what I mean by consciousness prisons. You get trapped in a belief system that tells you what is and isn't true and you never step outside that set of rules.
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I am honestly not sure any of his patents were stolen at all, many sources say he wasn't as great as the hype says he was. Many people say he was just a lightning rod for conspiracy theories. i really don't know. I do know that Heim theory was taken seriously by the US government and since it hit with a lot of fanfare nothing of substance has come from it. this of course might be because there was nothing to it after all but i have read nothing about it either way. Tesla is another inventor that has attracted a lot of conspiracy theories but the truth is he didn't do much if any of the fantastic stuff attributed to his name.
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