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Re: Proof of God

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Originally Posted by MySiddhi View Post
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(I1) E = m?c^2 (Jules Poincaré & Olinto Pretto) [immanent]
Mass-Energy Equivalence; bradyons have transformational pathways with gauge bosons; all spatial things are forms of energy.

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With all due respect, I clearly disagree with every assessment articulated in the opening post.

Mathematically pleasing ideas have never proved or disproved the existence (or nonexistence) of superior conscious beings, simply because they are beyond the scope of the physical world, beyond numbers, beyond equivalences. Mathematics is based on somewhat obvious statements that quantities are identical. For example, 3, 1 + 2, and 7 – 4 are the same. Another mathematically pleasing equivalence is E = mc2. It would be a false statement to claim that God and Nature are equal. By definition, a state of divinity is very different from the patterns of behavior observed in the environment, or what is deduced from experience.

Furthermore, to attribute E = mc^2 to Poincaré and Pretto is like trying to attribute Cubism to Cézanne and african art. The fact is, neither Cézanne's work nor african art is Cubist. The genial idea comes from amalgamation. That is why Picasso is considered the father of Cubism, and Einstein the father of relativity.

The attempt to rationalize something irrational, or similarly, the attempt to explain the supernatural with logic (i.e, to explain god using scientific terminology), is like try to describe physical processes with religious arguments.

It simply doesn't work.



The existence of god is based on belief; it is ingrained within the inner-world of individuals: inherent only within the unbounded imagination of the human psyche. It is for those believers in god to face the fact that the object of their believe is a human invention.

Science is based on observations of the external-world. It follows from the very discourse of nature itself.


if fundamental intuition leads to sixth sense adherences we should better perhaps rely on experimental and observational data to guide us. It is not because millions or billions of people believe in a Unique Being at the Top that one exists.

That is not to say that imagination is outside the physical world: Nor that imagination cannot accomplish the goals projected by pious beliefs.

Only with the accurate knowledge of the natural laws, combined with firm understanding of our association to evolution fostered by objective observation, can there be productive growth, an increased capacity for positive human relations and peaceful interaction. Knowing the facts relevant to the underlying principles of nature will lead to a better understanding of the general notions of personality, creativity: the genetic and ontogenic factors in growth and evolution; recognition of environmental, internal or individual, unconscious and conscious factors as determinant of behavior; the idea that personality is connected to and indivisible from the physical laws; the recognition that human beings are social animals; and that the cyclical budding phases of life mirror synchronization between the developing individual, his societal environment and the evolving universe.






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