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Re: Conservative intuition: ingroup/loyalty, authority/respect, and purity/sanctity

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Originally Posted by questor View Post
The quote from Thoreau better descibes conservatism than liberalism. It is difficult to climb the mountain of success while burdened by liberal guilt, political correctness, lack of self reliance, and belief that government is the answer to all problems.
Thoreau is described in the opening paragraph of his wiki article as an "individualist anarchist". Read the quote again, specifically the bolded part:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thoreau
“I learned this, at least, by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; new, universal, and more liberal laws will begin to establish themselves around and within him; or the old laws be expanded, and interpreted in his favour in a more liberal sense, and he will live with the license of a higher order of beings. In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness. If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.”
Nothing about this quote or Thoreau's ideology seem conservative to me.

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Originally Posted by questor View Post
I have no conservative friends who believe the big bang occurred 10,000
years ago.
[...]
This may describe a small number of religious zealots, but in no way
describes
the people who form the main body of conservatism.
You must not have very many conservative friends then:

Republicans-Democrats-Differ-Creationism
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Originally Posted by Gallup
There is a significant political divide in beliefs about the origin of human beings, with 60% of Republicans saying humans were created in their present form by God 10,000 years ago
Gallup-One Third Americans Believe Bible Literally True

Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution

Climate-Change Views: Republican-Democratic Gaps Expand

Republicans are statistically more ignorant about biology, cosmology, and climate science. This is something that needs serious addressing by all parties. Voters armed with so much misinformation(or just plain ignorant!) can be dangerous or harmful to our democracy.
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