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Old 03-02-2005   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Distant Galaxies Show A Mature Universe Even in Childhood

The start of this universe involves quantum effects. In general, and this is well known, we still do not understand enough about this early period to say how fast things would evolve. What we have is a standard model to go by. That model is not complete by any stretch at the present. Given that one simply at best can make conjectures based upon what we know. With the gaps in our knowledge its no wonder our best models don't always jive up with observational data. But making the conjecture this universe is so young one needs to propose a special creation is also based upon just as much speculation in general.

One thing to keep in mind is we only actually see part of this whole universe to begin with. When we look out across space we look back in time. But how fast that time span was is also somewhat determined by the overall size of the universe itself which we simply have no way to fully measure. Its also determined by the actual age of the stars, by certain sign posts or markers we go by to measure distance, etc. All of these can be considered a variable which we tend to average out to certain values. The oldest stars we see, by our best theories should be about 15 billion years old. That figure itself could be subject to some variance if there is missing information we do not have at present about their own evolution. Also, and there are articles that have proposed this, if any of the common so-called constants where a bit different in the past then our age measurments themselves could be off enough to allow for the universe being a bit older or younger. I'm not saying here they were. But all of that is possible under modern theory.

Another issue here often overlooked is was the entropy or information of the universe at the start of creation zero? Another words, was there a lot of sturcture built in when the universe first was born. If there was then the universe would have evolved a lot faster than we suspect at present. No one was actually there at the start of time. That's one big gap in our information that untill we better understand the processes involved at such an early stage its simply a mystery we need to solve, not a damnation of every theory we have.

One other thing. Modern String based theories have been saying things might have evolved a lot faster than we general think using the Standard Model depending upon early conditions.
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