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Originally Posted by Turtle
As I say; if you don't like it, don't view it. You have no right to determine what is art for others.  |
No I don't but I do have a right to express my opinion, even if you don't agree with it - force it down your throat or stop you saying it Turt, that's different (by the way you have an unfortunate Nickname when it's abbreviated!
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The point I'm trying to make is that this is a sign of society breaking down in my opinion - the Nazi's revolted against this in the thirties as decadence - I'm just trying to say that there is a reason for it happening and that it follows war: The science/ logic of the matter is that war requires discipline, conformism and a belief in what is happening. Art on the other hand requires rebellion against order, creativity and total disbelief in anything. We can't blame the government for the collapse of our civilization as we are its very fabric. It's our choice as to whether we continue to put effort into our own lives and therefore through that collective being, into the world or give up all effort and rest on our laurels, in a lazy heap (or tired, if you'd prefer - less emotive idea, not aimed at trying to stimulate you into action by making you feel ashamed of yourself). I prefer to think of myself as the little boy pointing out the Emperor's naked, not dressed in the best but 'invisible' finery in the world.
I see Stockhausen with his ten minutes of silence, fashion that makes the wearer look like a clown (Fine if you wear it with this in mind but not if you take it seriously), botox and plastic surgery that makes you look uglier than your natural self (but hey, it's original!). Then there is the more disturbing effect of Social Services in the UK, that attack easy targets in the same way that violent yobs attack the disabled, letting the really vicious parents that they are too scared to tackle, literally get away with murder i.e. kill their own children. Whistle-blowers are sacked or ostracized and junior staff that tried to warn senior staff of the situation are made scape goats and sacked.
This is why this thread is more than about art and it is a sad and sick reflection of our present society.
