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Re: Origin of the Universe,,,,Bang or no Bang

G'day from the land of ozzzzzz

Hello Maddog

Look at the science, look at the issues. Before you become a critic of crap.

What scientific point do you disagree with?

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Hello Erasmus

You may say what you may about Arps work, but! the dispute over redshift is still on the table. The intinsic redshift in supernova and black holes has not been disproved.
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Hello Fripro

You said

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The Universe has no beginning and no end--eternal, just more of the same construction in strings, waves, vortexs, sine wave oscillating gas cloud radiation outputs, converting to mass and back via the Universe's atmosphere--Newton's AEther or ether.
THat I would agree with.

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I have some interesting links, please read them if you wish.

[astro-ph/0405083] Another origin of cosmological redshifts
Another origin of cosmological redshifts

Authors: Michael A. Ivanov
(Submitted on 5 May 2004)

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Abstract: If gravitons are super-strong interacting particles which fulfill a flat non-expanding universe, we would have another possibility to explain cosmological redshifts - in a frame of non-kinematic model. It is shown by the author that in this case SNe 1a data may be understood without any dark energy and dark matter. A value of relaxation factor is found in this paper. In this approach, we have Newton's law of gravity as a simplest consequence, and the connection between Newton's and Hubble's constants. A value of the latter may be theoretically predicted.


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[astro-ph/0409111] A quantum gravitational model of redshifts
A quantum gravitational model of redshifts

Authors: Michael A. Ivanov
(Submitted on 6 Sep 2004)

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Abstract: The main features of an alternative model of redshifts are described here. The model is based on conjectures about an existence of the graviton background with the Planckian spectrum and a super-strong character of quantum gravitational interaction. This model is connected with the assumed quantum mechanism of gravity. A behavior of two theoretical functions of a redshift $z$ in this model - the geometrical distance $r(z)$ and the luminosity distance $D_{L}(z)$ - and an existence of two different cosmological horizons for any observer are discussed.

[astro-ph/0403130] Another possible interpretation of SN 1a data - without kinematics: Comments on the paper astro-ph/0402512 by A. Riess et al
Another possible interpretation of SN 1a data - without kinematics: Comments on the paper astro-ph/0402512 by A. Riess et al

Authors: Michael A. Ivanov
(Submitted on 4 Mar 2004)

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Abstract: It is shown here that for redshifts $z < 0.5$ the luminosity distance, which is predicted in author's model astro-ph/0005084 v2, fits well supernova observational data of astro-ph/0402512 by A.Riess et al. Discrepancies for higher $z$ would be explained in the model as a result of specific deformation of SN spectra due to a discrete character of photon energy losses. The model does not require any dark energy; it is based on the conjecture that gravitons are super-strong interacting particles fulfilling a flat non-expanding universe.
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