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Originally Posted by HydrogenBond
What we all forget. not too long ago medical science was doing blood letting based on the understanding and empirical data of that time. This has long changed and advanced but only because technology allows us to see cels and beyond. I am sure the science of the day had their own theories for evolution. If we had this debate, at that time, the more science minded would insist on the spontaneous creation theory but using physical explanations instead of god. This would correlate this with data and could have used statistics if that had been available to make it look like this was a valid representation of reality.
I am not saying creationism is correct, but science is a work in progress and needs to be seen that way, so young people are more willing to question and advance it to the next level. I like evolution, but it has built in fudge factors via statistics, which may be the reality of evolution, or may also be an artifact of a good empirical correlation that still has some missing logic, that makes it sort of useless for prediction. Say we had a theory of gravity that could predict at the same level as evolution, would we lobby to carve this into stone? Science would be a little tentative since, since it lacks sufficient logic to allow that. I see evolution still able to get better so once day we know what is next.
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This is incredibly disingenuous Hbond. There are no weaknesses or any reason not to teach children about evolution.
98% of the professors in Texas disagree with you about teaching evolution in their classes:
98% of Texas scientists back evolution teaching
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AUSTIN — The verdict from Texas scientists is nearly unanimous: 98 percent favor the unadulterated teaching of evolution in public school classrooms, according to a report released Monday as the State Board of Education prepares to weigh in on the controversy.
A vast majority of the scientists say students would be harmed if the state requires the teaching of the “weaknesses” of evolution, according to the survey by Raymond Eve, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Arlington, and conducted for the Texas Freedom Network Education Fund.
“With 94 percent of Texas faculty ... telling me it shouldn't be there, I tend to believe them,” Eve said of the requirement that schools teach the weaknesses of evolution.
More than 450 biology or biological anthropology professors at 50 Texas colleges and universities participated in a 59-question survey.
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If you want to teach children about the progress of science, then why not about
transmutationism,
saltationism, or
Lamarckism
If you want to include any creation mythology, it needs to be in a class on religion or mythology. Objective courses discussing the doctrine, history, music, creeds, prohibitions, mythology of all religions on equal footing with no value judgements.
Creation myths are simply not competing with scientific theories, and it is dishonest try frame them as such.
Dan Dennett addresses the problem of religion and education well, I think:
Edge: SHOW ME THE SCIENCE by Daniel C. Dennett
