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Post A "tired light" theory by any other name

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There are two possible explanations for the red shift. The most common theory is that the far stars are moving away from us near the speed of light.
This – that the observed redshifts conforming to Hubble’s law are due entirely to the relativistic Doppler effect and gravitational redshift – is no longer the most accepted theory explaining Hubble’s law. Rather, the “cosmological redshift” due to the metric expansion of face is theorized to be the dominant contributor to the large redshifts of the most distant objects. Many good summaries of this present-day state of cosmological theory are available in the popular science press and online, including this wikipedia article.
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However this conflicts with Einstein’s laws of moving objects. The far stars would have to have near infinite kinetic energy to move near the speed of light.
The situation is actually worse than this. Not accounting with the cosmological redshift, various observations of very distant objects indicate that these objects are receding at greater than the speed of light, and therefore have greater than infinite kinetic energies. This impossible application of the theory of special relativity was a major influence on the development of the theory of the metric expansion of space and the cosmological redshift.
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The second possibility is that the light from the far stars loses energy per unit distance of travel.
Theories containing this mechanism, conventionally termed “tired light”, have been well-known for a long time (Zwickey proposed one of the first in 1929). However, for many reasons (summarized in the precedingly linked wikipedia article and its linked references), this mechanism was largely rejected by most cosmologists by the late 1950s.
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To make matters worse for the fast moving galaxy theory is the constraints placed upon our light speed C universe by the multi-lightspeed universe. Since space is a spectrum of multi-lightspeed energies, the only thing, which varies, are the dots and the dot-waves. Therefore expanding galaxies at the speed of light cannot fit into a multi-lightspeed universe.
Jerry, what do you mean by multi-lightspeed universe and multi-lightspeed energies? The only references I’m able to find to this term appear in your posts at this and other forums.
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The cosmology dot-wave theory is an extension of the dot-wave theory. It specifies that the distance between the center of galaxies does not change. Thus the black holes at the center of our major galaxies were formed during the big bang and have remained basically stationary ever since. …
As you should know, Jerry, hypography’s rules require that claims such as the several in your preceding post must be backed up with links and references. Your previous post makes may very unusual claim, but gives no links or references. In addition to being against our site rules, this is bad form for scientific writing in general. I strongly encourage you to seek out good sources of experimental data supporting your claims (I don’t think you’ll be able to find good scientific papers or popular articles supporting them), or if unable to find such data, reconsider them.


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