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[jackson33]

Turtle; I have no idea, how you form an opinion. Mine are generally formed from experience, items written over many years. Any one today, may have been quite the opposite weeks to years ago. From high school on in education and in what public life most debate was between myself and another or groups of like minded DEBATING an issue and letting others decide any validity on their own. This said and my point; Anything you give as an opinion today, I could easily validate or find information to the complete opposite. It puzzles me when two or more posters start giving 'sites' that conform to their opinions, letting that opinion get lost in the discussion. I'll mention Craig, as a moderator and Pluto as a poster. Both, I am sure are intelligent and would make good debaters, but many times its very difficult for me to determine their personal viewpoint.

Essay; I don't think you were being sarcastic, but just in case; Statutory (law) and forcible only differ in what/who is making the accusation. "The audacity of unachievable hope"...and the expression of what is achievable, yet knowing its not, to achieve a goal are two entirely objectives. IMO; There are now millions of young folks, that honestly believe the Federal government or Obama himself, will address their personal grievance, yet the President has absolutely no authority over any individual for either good or bad things perceived by anybody. Generally speaking of course.

Forms of 'Corperate Farming' have been around a very long time. In Texas, for at least 100 years, individual farmers have planted fields of Sorghum and Cotton, chopped (weeding) and harvested by virtually the same labor each year, yet not affiliated with those farms, as each segment moved through the State. Cooperatives in nearly every farming community have set up storage and transport systems into the markets and governments try to control whats produced, by adjusting grants.

When I think of Corporate Farming, its the 10 big ones in California, primarily operating in the San Joaquin Valley, Southern California/Southern Arizona and now most having operations in Mexico. Most have there own distribution systems, buy seed, fertilizers and other needs by the rail car and contract to produce/food dealers around the world. There are such operations now in Canada, Brazil, Russia and probably many places I don't know, but do so at a fraction of the cost any original 'Truck Farm' could or even some rather large mid-west operations.

As for the economic engines that drive world economies, your watching what happens when one engine needs tuning. In agriculture, I feel it could happen in the distribution system, but in the financial system the engine has been accessibility to financing which 99% of industry has relied on to be there and now not. The US has a combined 15-16 Trillion dollar annual GDP, most of which is financed each year and government is trying to provide this financing availability with its (at best) 2.5T income. I won't bore you with the other markets (Equities/Commodities) which require trillions of dollars in financing almost weekly.

On the topic, I believe most folks have absolutely no idea how government operates, the functions of the Federal/States or even their City/County or how to distinguish between Business and Government. My little suggestion for a federal sub-branch, could be used as an educational tool for the electorate and the participation by actual participants in the system, outside government.