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Originally Posted by jackson33

Turtle; This is the original post, one which caught my attention and have been responding to. It is my sincere belief, as was on another such thread by Nitack, and on other forums or in public discussion, that many Americans are interested in changing the format/model of the American Political System. I further believe, in most cases ideas are subjective to personal grievances, or not the actual purpose of the Federal or State Governments.

Hiya Jackster. Yes; many Americans responded to President-Elect Obama's campaign message for 'change'. Yes, the 'change' is subjective and I only note that the message was so effective as to have McCain try and tie his dingy to that ship.

Originally Posted by Jack's in

The election of Obama, was IMO based on this assertion and the hopes of to[o] many people, [that] one person or an administration can achieve their personal goals or create the climate to their independent progress in society and then with no additional effort.

My own personal peccadillo here, but I have difficulty giving credence to such 'big' ideas when they come wrapped in poor grammar. For the record, this is one of the appeals for me in regards Barack, i.e. his command of language. After the buffoonery of Bush in this regard, this is a change for the good in my humble opinion.

Originally Posted by Jacksinator

None of this and in my opinion is going to happen and we may be headed for serious disappointment in a good share of the American Society.

There you go again. That sentence is improperly (and confusingly) structured. Yes, I get the idea, but even then a good share of America has always lived with serious disappointment so nothing is new in it.

Originally Posted by Jackston

I do hope I am wrong and somewhat impressed by Mr. Obama's appointments, however the facts from history, indicate no one president has singularly achieved such change.

Well, there ya go. Obama has instilled some hope in even you. Run with it bro. I gotta rash your stones here again however, as you have referred to 'facts' and yet you give none.

Originally Posted by Jillson

If you are anywhere near the age you claim, whether from the US or abroad, I would have been much more interested in your OPINIONS, than your current approach to denouncing my opinions.

As to my age, well, consider that I saw Jack Kennedy speak in my village when he ran against Nixon. In my opinion, it was my mistake not to support Kennedy. My denouncements go to your forming your opinions on asserted facts not given in evidence.

Originally Posted by Just the facts Jack

I do believe however, some method for segments of society, for whatever reason feeling disenfranchised should have some means to participate and in that participation and in the process become somewhat more informed on the actual purpose of each of the governments that control society.

Mmmm...sounds like our Constitution. >> Index Page - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Originally Posted by Jackson

I am aware of the rules, have mentioned many times that owners and management of any forum have the rights to control input and/or membership well beyond the rules posted. For this reason, I no longer post on Science issues on this forum, which is unrelated to my education, personal interest of mine.

You will also note there are rules for complaining about posters and/or PM's which can be used to take personal grievances off record and I might add taking a thread's objectives totally off topic.

Sounds like politics, don't it?