Engineerdude, that's just
funny!
Did you even look at some of their wiki's?
Check out
Richard Lindzen for example... yeah, he's a real scientist all right.
Bought and owned exclusively by "big oil" and "King coal". Scientific opinion for sale, no unreasonable request for fudged evidence denied.
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Criticism of Lindzen
Ross Gelbspan wrote a 1995 article in Harper's Magazine which was very critical of Lindzen and other global warming skeptics. In the article, Gelbspan claimed that Lindzen charged "oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC."[22]
In Aug 2006, according to Boston Globe columnist Alex Beam, Lindzen said that he had accepted $10,000 in expenses and expert witness fees, from "fossil-fuel types" in the 1990s and had not received any money from these since. [23]
According to a PBS Frontline report, "Dr. Lindzen is a member of the Advisory Council of the Annapolis Center for Science Based Public Policy, which has received large amounts of funding from ExxonMobil and smaller amounts from Daimler Chrysler, according to a review [of] Exxon's own financial documents and 990s from Daimler Chrysler's Foundation. Lindzen has also been a contributor to the Cato Institute, which has taken $90,000 from Exxon since 1998, according to the website Exxonsecrets.org and a review Exxon financial documents. He is also a contributor for the George C. Marshall Institute." [22]
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Roy Spencer is interesting as well.
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Roy W. Spencer Ph.D. is a principal research scientist for the University of Alabama in Huntsville and the U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer (AMSR-E) on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has served as senior scientist for climate studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
He is principally known for his satellite-based temperature monitoring work, for which he was awarded the American Meteorological Society's Special Award. He is also a supporter of intelligent design[1] and is skeptical of the scientific consensus that human activity is primarily responsible for global warming.
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Sounds like so many Creationists I know, denying evolution and global warming as both some kind of anti-bible conspiracy. No amount of science will convince someone like that! (I know plenty of Christian theistic evolutionists that see Genesis as Jewish creative narrative, and that's Christian leaders in apologetic roles not just your average joe-bloggs churchgoer).
Also, Spencer is not a climatologist but he does like to spit out his venom against climatologists.
Oh, lastly, Spencer's opinion is also for sale.
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Spencer is listed as a member of the Heartland Institute and a contributor to the George C. Marshall Institute[17], both of which receive funding from ExxonMobil.
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Stephen McIntyre
* Not a climatologist.
Stephen seems to be the most respectable of the 4, and at least does not appear (at this stage in my knowledge) to appear to be funded by Exxon and friends.
He helped correct a tiny error in USA temperature variations. However, this seems to have gone to his head and he thinks it's affected more than it actually has... the correction has no impact whatsoever on the global warming trends we observe. His blog has received webbie awards for at least seeking scientific knowledge about global warming, but I can't see any substantial debunking of global warming physics or anything significantly troubling to AGW in his work.
Coleman is a retired weather man out to make a buck and get a bit of attention.
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Views on global warming
In fall of 2007 Coleman described the current concern over global warming "a fictional, manufactured crisis, and a total scam." [3] His postings assessing the science behind global warming can be read at www.kusi.com
. In 2008 he gave a speech of the same tone, before the San Diego Chamber of Commerce, blaming the "global warming scam" and environmentalist lobby, for rising gas and food prices. He also declared the scam "a threat to our economy and our civilization." [4]
Coleman has also made appearances on Fox News Channel and on the Showtime program, Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, to share his global warming views.
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Yeah, great peer reviewed papers there Coleman, give Engineerdude some soundbytes to quote why don't you but above all, stay away from the empirical methodology and discipline of a scientific paper! Has he published anything that even got through the Science and Nature peer reviewed process, let alone anything in climate journals? Ha!
So, in summary, you're "real" scientists are:
* not climatologists
* not writing in real climate journals or peer reviewed articles (except maybe McIntyre but he contributes in a technical instrument capacity)
* 2 are funded by Exxon and friends
* 1 is a total has-been, trying to relive the glory days of his television career.
This is a sad and motley lot to put against the repeatable, testable, verifiable physics of spectrometry and the Radiative Forcing Equation.
