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I think I post links to save me from typing.
The problem I have is that the more papers I read the more I find myself knowing that I know very little in the scope of the universe.
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And there you have it: you need to increase your understanding. This comes from comparing and contrasting the statements in these papers and trying to keep an open mind to either side. |
Mate I think you read it out of context.
Any person who reads will find how little they know. Its a general statement.
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Oh and you failed to address the very question I posed in what you quoted, dear!
It's quite obvious that you do read quite a bit on the topic, including the data, but what I'm asking you to do here is actually *think* about what the theories and data *mean*.
I know you don't mean to--I know you've stated your position as being a general skeptic in the past, not necessarily pushing a particular point--but in posts like the recent ones above, you at least appear to be promoting "research papers" that even non-experts like myself can see are meaningless once even a modicum of *thinking* is applied.
This unfortunately does not reflect positively on the weight of your arguments.
That's something you may want to think about when contributing your arguments: you may have some important points to convey here, but they'll be lost among the links that are not only irrelevant, but laughably so.
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When people talk about expansion and acceleration. From what point or points are they talking about?
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All points! That's the strange thing about expansion: no center point! So a question back to you: do you think there needs to be? Why?
To reinforce something modest just said too: just because space is expanding does not mean that local clusters of galaxies should not move according to mutual gravitation.
Expansion proceeds from everywhere and is thus cumulative over distance: but the point is that it's not "pushing" anything, and thus, over the space of a galactic cluster, not only is its effect not terribly large, it doesn't matter so far as the gravitational effect that the constituent galaxies have on each other.
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How do they observe the expansion or acceleration from those points.
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The consequence of what I just said is that any point is just fine.
Think about it: to us it does look like we are in the exact center of the universe. What do you think the odds are of that being the case?
If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction,
Buffy
