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Re: What Exists? No, Really.

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In quantum mechanics when we perceive “quanta” it's still within the realm of the mind and subject to perception and visa versa. Theses underling pulses could in fact represent the origin of consciousness. A basic binary code that all complexity is built upon. Utilizing the water analogy once more think of converging wave pulses that overlap each other curling around each other and collapsing to a point. This interaction resulting in a oscillation point, a clock constructed by time itself.
I've read Penrose and his "The Emperor's Mind". Penrose is a genius, I agree. But the whole quantum mind thing of his is a crock of psychobabble, pseudoquantumbabble, and just plain babblebabble. I feel it's a waste of time going down that tunnel.

The explanation of Korzybski, though created in the 1930's and obviously a bit dated, still stands on its own. There are no "mysteries" remaining to be explained. Penrose and others keep looking for the "code" that translates between semantic objects (words, ideas) and chemical storage in cells. but a definitive "code" is not even necessary! Chaotic cellular electro-chemical activity only needs to interact with other mental activity in an exact analogous manner as some external reality object interacts with its real environment. As long as that correspondence is there, no "code" is necessary.

And I find all that quantum twaddle just too, too tiresome to even read. Sorry.


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