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[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by questor

Moon, my information shows heidelbergensis as a direct progenitor of Neandertal and Sapiens about 400,000 years ago.There seems to have been three other hominids living in the same period as Sapiens: Erectus, Neanderthalensis, and Floresiensis. They all went extinct, what do you think of that? If you are interested in this subject and can entertain opposing views, go to Darwinism Refuted.com. I won't make further comment upon this site except i found it quite interesting.

If you can't see the flaws offered as proof on that site I don't see how we can discuss this at all. There were lots of different hominids living at various times, why is this relevant? Yes they went extinct, why is this relevant? Do think that once an anatomically modern human was born all the other hominids dropped dead? At any one time in the past there were several different versions of hominids alive, sometimes even in the same areas. this is not relevant to evolution any more than several types of any other creatures living at the same time. As for this site, it shows termites from 25 million years ago as proof that evolution is false. It actually does a good job showing evolution is real, an animal that is well adapted to it's environment doesn't change. Evolution doesn't say animals change just because they are old, they only change if environmental pressures cause them to change. some animals are so well adapted they either change very slowly or not at all. sharks, sturgeons, lampreys, horse shoe crabs are all examples this. If an animals has a form that works extremely well they do not change. Evolution can not only work both forward and backward it can also stand still. My take on the ancestors of Neanderthals is disputable in it's details, I wasn't trying to be absolutely accurate I was trying to show how evolution works, Neanderthals did not spring into existence over night they had ancestors as well. tracing back those ancestors will show sapiens had ancestors too both linages diverged before they were neanderthals or sapiens. If you want i can go back and try to get the details exact, but you find there is some variation thought about how these hominids came together, some even believe that Homo sapiens sapiens is a hybrid of Homo sapiens and Homo Neanderthalis. The record isn't clear on the details and the closer you try to see the details the more fuzzy they become. It's not written down clearly enough to know which hominid at exactly what time became who or hybridized with who but the broad strokes are very clear and the smaller strokes become clearer all the time as research continues.