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Re: Neanderthals

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Moon, my information shows heidelbergensis as a direct progenitor of Neandertal and Sapiens about 400,000 years ago.
According to wiki:
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According to the "Recent Out of Africa" theory, similar "Archaic Homo sapiens" found in Africa (ie. Homo sapiens idaltu only 160,000 years old), existing in Africa as a part of the operation of the Saharan pump, and not the European forms of Homo heidelbergensis, are thought to be direct ancestors of modern Homo sapiens.

Homo heidelbergensis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also, as MTM notes, heidelbergensis is not so much a single species. The transition from one successful and prevalent species to another is a messy affair. Heidelbergensis refers to a range of hominids that changed over time.
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Homo heidelbergensis is the species name now given to a range of specimens from about 800,000 years ago to the appearance of anatomically modern Homo sapiens (the species to which we belong)...

Additional finds of early humans with morphological attributes of both modern humans and Homo erectus have shown that the transition from early and middle Pleistocene forms and the morphology of modern humankind was not a neat transition that could be easily explained.

For many years, scientists placed any problematic specimens displaying mixtures of "erectus-like" and "modern" traits into a confusing category: "Archaic" Homo sapiens (basically meaning any Homo sapiens that didn't look quite modern). Recently, it has been proposed to separate these individuals into a distinct species. For this purpose, the Mauer mandible, and the species name Homo heidelbergensis has seniority.

Human Ancestors Hall: Homo heidelbergensis
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There seems to have been three other hominids living in the same period as Sapiens: Erectus, Neanderthalensis, and Floresiensis. They all went extinct, what do you think of that?
There were many more than 4 hominids living in that time as there are today. That three of them went extinct is... well... not at all abnormal. Species go extinct all the time. As far as living in the same area... lions and cheetahs live side by side—so what? You are failing to imply whatever it is you think you're implying.

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