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Re: Light and magnets

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Originally Posted by Moontanman View Post
While what you say may have some bearing on the process the fact that Photons have no charge is the main reason magnetic fields to not affect them. Massive particles with charge are affected as are less massive particles with charge. I know of no massless particles with charge but if they had charge a magnetic field would affect them. Particles with no charge are not affected no matter how massive they are.
the question asked was how come EM waves are not affected by EM force fields, and yes, EM waves don't have a constant charge, but they do have an alternating electical/magnetic field and as a result some of the time they do exist as a static electrical field or as a magnetic field, so why are they not affected by by a magnet? the answer IMHO lies in the fact that they are only fields and the interaction between two charged particles relies on they mass, distance and charge according to the formula
force = (KxQ1xQ2)/R^2
acceleration = (force x distance)/mass

where K is the electric constant
Q1 and Q2 are the charge of the particles in columbs
R is the distance in meters between the 2 particles

if there where massless partiles with a constant charge, the math will not work as the acceleration is inversly proportional to the mass and therefore any force would accelerate such a particle to infinite speed (division by zero since the mass is zero) the natural conclusion is that massless particles with a 'charge' cannot be acclerated. my argument is that massless particles cannot have their speed affected by force fields due to the division by zero problem.

in my understanding, it is the fact that force will accelerate massive particles, but has no effect on EM waves as they are an alrernating static/magnetic force fields with no mass. the concept of charge, is simply saying that a massive particle has a constant EM force field. if i where to create a system that has mass and has an alternating electrical/magnetic field it will be affected by a magnet, accelerating, decelerating or changing direction depending on it's configuration.

am i wrong?
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