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Re: Origin of the Universe,,,,Bang or no Bang

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I have read
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...808.2813v2.pdf...


...I thought I would add this to this post, may have more relevance to a cyclic universe process of the parts that make up the universe...
I'm confused how the paper above has relevance to a cyclic universe. The paper says nothing about a cyclic universe or model. It explicitly assumes standard cosmology in the introduction:
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We adopt a cosmological model that is spatially flat with \Omega_{matter} = 0.3; H0 = 70 km/s/Mpc.
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Its the mechanism that produces the jets that prevents the ultimate BH.
Yes. The intense wind created by the rapid expulsion of infalling matter drives away a supermassive black hole's feeding source.


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Interesting points
1) The ability to deed
Star birth is closely linked to the black hole at the center of a galaxy.
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"These galaxies lose material into their central black holes at the same time they make their stars," Barger said. "So whatever mechanism governs star formation in galaxies also governs black hole growth."

NASA Observatory Confirms Black Hole Limits
Hole power. - Free Online Library
As the black hole pushes away the gas, dust, and stars near it—it stops feeding and stops spitting out new material for seeding new stars. The paper in question describes the end of the black hole's ability to seed. The end of the cycle. A black hole that has reached its size limit no longer seeds new star formation.

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2) A cyclic process.
You'll have to explain further. The end of a black hole's feeding is by nature not a cyclic thing. It's something that stops. If you're talking about a cyclic universe (big bang / big crunch) then I don't see how you're relating this paper (which doesn't describe anything like that) to such a universe.

Please help me understand: How would you define "cyclic universe" and "cyclic process" in your own words

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3) Rear to find an inactive black hole that suck matter in only.
It would not be easy to see a black hole that sucks in matter only. It wouldn't emit anything that we could see.

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