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Old 01-13-2009   #1139 (permalink)
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Re: My belief in Global Warming is getting shaky

Gentlemen-

This is a 20 minute video from 2007 that nicely encapsulates the opposing view. This video is not proprietary.


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To my knowledge, there is no contest that CO2 rose over the last century. There is also certainly no contest about whether C02 can act as a greenhouse gas. The issue is whether the increase in CO2 is causal for global warming.

In this video, the argument is that warming is better correlated with solar activity over the long term (300 to 1000 years) and that the increase in temperature over the last 100 years is more likely from solar activity than from CO2 increases. It also argues that CO2 increases are generally a result of warming, not a cause (since warm oceans undeniably store less CO2 than cold ones). The recent drop of global temperatures (2008) back to about the 100 year mean supports this position.

In this discussion it is nice to avoid references to the "consensus" of scientists. Nothing in science is decided by consensus. Science is not a democracy.

Most folks see this sort of presentation and proceed to attempt to discredit the source or the sponsor (as has been done in previous posts). I think this forum deserves to focus on the underlying science, not the perceived biases of the contributors.


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