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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
Well, this atheist Labour voter me, knows i'm winning an AGW debate when somebody trys to bring that sort of a comment to the debate 
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That post wasn't directed towards you or anyone in particular, it was a few relevant links and an observation(somewhat off topic, oops!) about the party system in the USA and anti-scientific pseudoskepticism. I have not been following your debate closely(nor do I plan on it), feel free to carry on without me.
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Originally Posted by Biochemist
Gentlemen-
This is a 20 minute video from 2007 that nicely encapsulates the opposing view. This video is not proprietary.
Discovery Institute
Most folks see this sort of presentation and proceed to attempt to discredit the source or the sponsor (as has been done in previous posts). I think this forum deserves to focus on the underlying science, not the perceived biases of the contributors.
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The Discovery Institute is a religious propaganda mill and their websites should only be linked to on a decent science forum as a demonstration of what deceptive pseudoscience looks like.
I now quote from the wiki article:
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Discovery Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Discovery Institute is a conservative public policy U.S. think tank based in Seattle, Washington, best known for its advocacy of intelligent design and its Teach the Controversy campaign to teach creationist anti-evolution beliefs in United States public high school science courses.[2][3][4][5][6] A federal court, along with the majority of scientific organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, say the Institute has manufactured the controversy they want to teach by promoting a false perception that evolution is "a theory in crisis", through incorrectly claiming that it is the subject of wide controversy and debate within the scientific community.[7][8][9] In 2005, a federal court ruled that the Discovery Institute pursues "demonstrably religious, cultural, and legal missions",[10] and the institute's manifesto, the Wedge strategy, describes a religious goal: to "reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions".[11][12]
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