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Perhaps. But the "no contest" position invites posters to identify an opposing position. I am not relying on an unnamed consensus.
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Saying there's "no contest" exactly does rely on unnamed consensus.
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Do let me know if you are aware of anyone that contests the position.
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Sure, you say there's no contest that CO
2 is a greenhouse gas while Engineerdude (a self-proclaimed engineer) has argued extensively in the last few pages of this thread that it does not work as a greenhouse gas the way scientific literature (or scientific consensus) says it does. He's gone as far as describing experiments he's done to debunk it as a greenhouse gas.
You've essentially ignored his argument by setting the bar and saying "there's no contest" while you tell others not to do the same (all in the same post mind you). It's truly dizzying.
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Only if the critique of bias is used in place of critique of the content. That approach is politics, not science.
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If you feel that strongly about it then you might consider avoiding the practice.
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The presenter in the above video is a Cal Tech PhD. The data is credible.
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So, we're allowed to claim data is credible if it's presented by a PhD, but not allowed to claim data is credible if its presented by a near-unanimous majority of PhDs in the field of research.
I'm going to have to all-around disagree with you. I think a scientific consensus does count for something and is worth mentioning. I think conclusions that go against such a near-unanimous scientific consensus are considered "extraordinary claims" that require extraordinary proof. I explicitly do
NOT think all claims (regardless of how biased and silly they are) deserve to be debunked on equal footing.
As you say: there is no contest that the earth is warming up. When Flying Binghi walks on to the forum here and claims otherwise, it is sufficient to point out the scientific consensus against his silly claim. While Flying Binghi's claim is widely contested around these parts, you are correct, there's no *real* contest. Not really.
~modest
