G'day Maddog
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Your text I marked in blue above is The truest and accurate statement I have read by you. However your text I marked in Red is not accurate, misleading and not quite true.
The properties of jets around Black Holes are outside phenomena. They infer nothing of the processes going in inside a hole. Basically you are completely prevented from doing this -- knowing Anything goin' on in there.
One exception (Quasi-Exception at that) would be by way of Berkenstein Conjecture (which I believe he won the bet from Hawking on this) that you can a bit of info from a Black Hole -- it's effective Temperature. That's it. Nothing else you already don't know (all effects known are outside).
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Mate, this is where I think that you nead to read up on the subject.
What makes you think that I want to misslead any of the information.
There are various theories as to the workings of jets. Most scientists allow the door to remain open in fear of being wrong.
As for Black holes and their properties, we lack information to actually determine the correct mechanisms, so we talk around the topic, trying to fit the puzzel together.
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I am not aware of such a process as this would need increase gravity push past the Strong Force barrier to "freely" disassociate quarks into a quark plasma.
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Than make yourself aware.
But papers like this one gives us a better understanding:
[0808.0260] Absorption Properties and Evolution of Active Galactic Nuclei
Absorption Properties and Evolution of Active Galactic Nuclei
Authors: G. Hasinger (1 and 2) ((1) MPE Garching, (2) IfA Hawaii)
(Submitted on 2 Aug 2008)
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Abstract: Intrinsic absorption is a fundamental physical property to understand the evolution of active galactic nuclei (AGN). Here a sample of 1290 AGN, selected in the 2-10 keV band from different flux-limited surveys with very high optical identification completeness is studied. The AGN are grouped into two classes, unabsorbed (type-1) and absorbed (type-2), depending on their optical spectroscopic classification and X-ray absorption properties, using hardness ratios. Utilizing the optical to X-ray flux ratios, a rough correction for the ~8% redshift incompleteness still present in the sample is applied. A strong decrease of the absorbed fraction with X-ray luminosity is found. This can be represented by an almost linear decrease from ~80% to ~20% in the luminosity range log L_X=42-46 and is consistent with similar derivations in the optical and MIR bands. A significant increase of the absorbed fraction with redshift is found, which can be described by a power law with a slope ~(1+z)^{0.62+/-0.11}, saturating at a redshift of z~2. A simple power law fit ~(1+z)^{0.48+/-0.08} over the whole redshift is also marginally consistent with the data. The variation of the AGN absorption with luminosity and redshift is described with higher statistical accuracy and smaller systematic errors than previous results. The findings have important consequences for the broader context of AGN and galaxy co-evolution. Here it is proposed that the cosmic downsizing in the AGN population is due to two different feeding mechanisms: a fast process of merger driven accretion at high luminosities and high redshifts versus a slow process of gas accretion from gravitational instabilities in galactic disks rebuilding around pre-formed bulges and black holes.
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We have such a long way to go before we can say we understand the formation of compact objects and the jet formation.
Chandra and HST observations of gamma-ray blazars: comparing jet emission at small and large scales
Authors: F. Tavecchio, L. Maraschi, A. Wolter, C.C. Cheung, R.M. Sambruna, C.M. Urry
(Submitted on 14 Mar 2007)
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Abstract: We present new Chandra and HST data for four gamma-ray blazars selected on the basis of radio morphology with the aim of revealing X-ray and optical emission from their jets at large scales. All the sources have been detected. Spectral Energy Distributions of the large scale jets are obtained as well as new X-ray spectra for the blazar cores. Modeling for each object the core (sub-pc scale) and large-scale (>100 kpc) jet SEDs, we derive the properties of the same jet at the two scales. The comparison of speeds and powers at different scales supports a simple scenario for the dynamics and propagation of high power relativistic jets.
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My opinion at this moment is not important. I still have at least two more years of reading on this subject.
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It is statements like this that begin to wonder what it is you are smoking... #%^&
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I don't think you could give me a SPECIFIC "Reputable" Reference as to other evidence. I would require Reputable as I do not just accept any wild-ass website out there with some crazy idea. Science, not Fantasy. I wonder what you mean by degenerate matter and how it could possibly be ejected from the BH were that even possible [which it is NOT]. See I italicized the remaining part of the statement in that were it not part of the same sentence of the first part would be true. The forming Jet would and likely does effect or influence the environment surrounding the BH. Were this compact object as big as AGN then the whole of that galaxy would be effected. How though this would influence the evolution of galaxy clusters kind of escapes me yet I concede might be possible.
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This statement tells me that you have not read up on the subject.
I do not invent the information and the papers are not isolated.
Ask me what part and papers that you want to read.
Properties of jets are well documented. I do not have to feed that information.
But! I will later.
