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Originally Posted by maddog
I don't think you could give me a SPECIFIC "Reputable" Reference as to other evidence. I would require Reputable as I do not just accept any wild-ass website out there with some crazy idea. Science, not Fantasy. I wonder what you mean by degenerate matter and how it could possibly be ejected from the BH were that even possible [which it is NOT]. [...]
No, this process is not documented any where but where you stated it and it is very much you idea and yours alone.
Matter exiting en-masse from a black hole would cause to hole give up all its mass way more quickly than predicted causing a Contradiction. Maybe you need to think about this some more.
maddog
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Check this out:
How Black Holes Both Consume and Eject Material
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January 5, 2005 :: With the announcement of the most powerful eruption ever witnessed in the Universe in the galaxy cluster MS 0735.6+7421, astronomers are seeing that how supermassive black holes eject matter is just as interesting as how they consume it.
This discovery, as is often the case, leads to more questions: How can black holes eject so much energy and material? Have similar eruptions been seen, or is this some sort a cosmic loner? What does it teach us about supermassive black holes and about the galaxies where they reside?
To begin with, it sounds illogical that black holes could even generate massive eruptions. After all, hasn't it always been said that nothing, not even light, can escape a black hole? This remains true, but only when matter passes inside the "event horizon" of a black hole. ..."
Matter that gets close to a black hole but remains outside the event horizon can undergo a very different experience and is sometimes expelled in violent jets. Such jets, probably originating from an energetic, magnetized, spinning disk around the supermassive black hole, produced the enormous cavities seen in MS 0735. ...
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Or this one:
Black holes give as well as take
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Black holes are well known for their ability to swallow matter, but now a group of astronomers in the US has found evidence that they might emit substantial amounts of matter as well. George Chartas of Penn State University and colleagues have discovered that quasars – star-like objects that are thought to be fuelled by supermassive black holes – eject significant quantities of gas into space, including elements such as carbon, oxygen and iron.
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The results, which were presented yesterday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Quebec, come from data obtained by NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory and the European Space Agency’s XMM-Newton satellite.
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There are many other links similar to the above, some of which may already have been posted by Pluto.
So it appears possible that Pluto may be correct, or, at least, he has not yet been proven wrong.
In fact, evidence seems to support what he is citing. Whether the ejected material is degenerate or not I do not know. I too have more research to do.
As far as wether material is expelled from inside or outside of an event horizon has little relevance, since the process of ejection (if indeed that is what's taking place) is still operational from within a vicinity where gravitational spacetime curvature is exceedingly pronounced.
Edit: As long as the ejected material observed is outside the Schwarzschild radius of a black hole there is no reason why the material could not be degenerate. No degeneracy state can occur within the event horizon (I think Pluto would agree).
See more articles on the topic here.
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