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WOW......thanks guys for your wonderfull replies, you've given me a load more gum to chew on. Please dont take this post the wrong way i dont want you to think i'm going against the grain and don't appreciate your help because i really do. Now then this big bang theory thingy, sorry, cant accept or live with that idea, it's the sort of thing i would try to explain to my young children because it sounds magical and it's a bit of a cop out. Now when i say i don't accept the big bang theory i dont totally dismiss it, i think it would be very reasonable and obvious to say there was some kind of bang or fluctuation that led to the creation of all matter and life , but to say it created space and time as well is IMO illogical and total rubbish. Time is IMO a totally human concept and should be ignored, time has no substance and plays no role in the creation of the universe. As for the big bang also creating space, well......this is just not logical in any shape or form, for something to expand it must have something to expand into like......erm... Space, oh yer that will do nicely, it would therefore be reasonable to say that infinite space always existed before any event that led to the creation of matter, space does not require a beginning or end, that's just another human concept . You know i feel very comfortable living with the fact that space is infinite and has always existed and always will, after all space is space, you know... it's just there, it does not require an explanation, even if absolutely nothing and i mean absolutely nothing existed in the universe there would still be space,along with, total darkness, and absolute zero. But we all know this can't possibly be true, something quite obviously existed in the space, the question is what. It's been well quoted that even if you create a complete vacuum, there is still something in the vacuum, well i'm going to make a guess here and say.... Electricity !!...... no..no.. no.. not electricity in the sense that some of us may perceive it, what i mean is the invisible ghostly force that drives it, this is something that is not fully understood but it must exist, and i truly believe this to be one of the fundamental or possibly only force that existed in the space prior to the creation of matter i also think some of this force converted itself into the matter we observe in the universe. So what caused this conversion to happen you may ask, well i'm going to say intelligence, yep this ghostly force evolved intelligence, why?, because it had potential, it then began to manufacture and spew out particles that eventually led to whole atoms being formed, oh.. wow.... now..... were cooking, next gases begin to form possibly hydrogen, ooooh... i can feel an explosion coming on. So matter and stars are eventualy created and all the elements follow, and the best thing of all life . So what happened to all that ghostly invisible force, well.... it's all around you everything you see, touch, smell, eat, all matter is buzzing with an electrical charge created from this single mysterious force. Did all of this force convert into matter, unlikely, there's still plenty of potential out there, Hmmm Dark matter.