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Originally Posted by freeztar

1. There's a reason it's called the Department of Defence, rather than the Department of Offence. If we layed down our guns, other countries might view this as a weakness and attempt to take over the US.

I think the first step would be to stop attacking countries on flimsy pretenses. I agree with taking out Saddam but that seems more like a job for the UN to decide. And I dont agree with the occupation of Iraq and afganastan. If we stopped attacking other countries and trying to police others (once again, the UN's job(kind of)) that would be a huge step forward. Right now, I do belive in defense, if another country tried to take over, then I agree with the use of force to get them out of our country, but only to get them out of our country. The big "players" got really upset when Iran launched a satillite because they thought it would lead to ballistic missile tech.

2. Wars can help fuel an economy. It keeps lots of people employed.

Yea, sure. WWI ruined the econemy. Not directly during the war, but after the effect it has was severe, most soldiers were "laid off" and as a result a significant part of the military population was left unemployed. Then came the great depression.....

WW2: people in the United States gave everything they had to the war effort. Everything was changed because of the men who were fighting, and because the women had to do everything.
Vietnam: we fought the Russians in a proxy war in vietnam. Soldiers were forced to clean up dangerous chemicals without proper gear. The M151 was top heavy and rolled over resulting in injury but mostly death. The notorious Agent Orange was introduced as a "defoliant". When veterans started suffering from everything they were put through, the millitary denied that they had anything to do with it, and hundreds of former soldiers were denied compensation and many couldn't even work because of their injuries.
Bush's "war": trillions of dollars are spent on weapons and wages sending America into a debt so large it will take years to even bring the market back to where it was.

3. Terrorism dictates that we must actively combat those that wish harm to other people, regardless of nationality.

You want to see your terrorists? Ive got four of 'em right here:

From Sticksandstonesscz.blogspot.com
On February 19th and 20th, the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force arrested Adriana Stumpo, 23; Nathan Pope, 26; Joseph Buddenberg, 25; and Maryam Khajavi, 20 - 4 people it described as "terrorists".

They were arrested under the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act of 2007 which labels anyone who radically (like attacking corporate workers of a company, or vandalism which includes writting with chalk) goes agaist big companies that do animal testing, as terrorists.

(Thanks for playing devils advocate)