that is great michael, really good!
i am growing pumpkins now as there are no pumpkins here and it will add some fun for halloween..maybe give them to the teens so they can go have some pumpkins with their fireworks......i hear ya on the rebellion. but often times it can work as an advantage, cause when ya play into their ego, they think they are cool doing something, and they get more interested, sometimes.
"engineers and the plant people"
i like that. but there seems to be a third group the ones that just sit there and absolutely will not look touch or even talk about it lol.....thumb with their cellphones and wait til they can leave and play computer...hehe.
reminds me of a time we took about 5 students to the river, 3 of their parents got so pissed off at us because its too dangerous. not form drowning or snakes or anything, but because there are too many ghost that live by the river.....sometimes i just dont know what to say, but its a strong belief system here that more often than not seems to specifically gear away from nature
edit about the planting trees in your yard. for anyone with a septic field in their yard, think about the roots! i planted some maples trees in my parents house (mothers day gift when i was a teen). about 8 years later they had to dig up the whole damn yard and take the roots out of the hols in the tanks, which seeped into the yard (sorry mom)...there was many thousands of $. so think about what you plant where if you have that lol.
