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CraigD,

Thank you for the detailed reply--also the link to the Navy 2007 paper, which I have not yet read. Not sure about others in the forum, but I find the work presented by Navy to be of great interest, and I would like to continue discussion here.

Your comment that the 3-pit pattern "could" be explained by what causes the 1-pit and 2-pit patterns sounds very possible, and as you say, detailed measurements on the pits would be needed.

Seems to me using Occum's Razor that the most simple explanation is that each basic 'pit' seen on CR-39 film is caused by a single nucleon, either a proton [P] or a neutron [N] that results from a fusion reaction of some sort at the Pd electrode. Clearly the Navy has no idea what the form of the fusion may be. Both single [P] and [N] are predicted to be released from DD fusion--I think even of the LENR type.

So, suppose the 1-pit pattern is caused by a single nucleon from a DD fusion, then the 2-pit pattern could result from two nucleons close packed released after a secondary fusion reaction and each hits CR-39 film at similar time and location (perhaps a NN type cluster). Then the 3- pit pattern caused by three close packed nucleons released together (either tritium [NPN] or helium-3 [PNP]). This hypothesis eliminates the need for the more convoluted Navy explanation that carbon-12 is split into 3 alpha thus causing the 3-pit pattern. If as suggested by Navy there also is DT fusion in addition to DD, then the DT event is predicted to have one path that results in a 4-pit pattern (the alpha). Other patterns are possible if there also are TT fusion and/or helium-3 + helium-3 fusion as secondary reactions.

My point being is that the Navy explanation is just so convoluted--that a fusion event released a neutron--that the high energy neutron hit the CR-39 film--that just happened to catch a carbon-12 atom in a quantum state with 3 perfectly matched alphas--that the three alphas released at the same time to hit CR-39.

So, why not just fusion at Pd electrode resulting in release of helium-3 [PNP] and/or tritium [NPN] to explain how the 3-pit patterns are formed--three individual nucleons close packed that hit CR-39 at same time, each pit caused by a single nucleon ? Where in either 2007 or 2008 papers would this hypothesis be experimentally falsified in a robust manner ?

I'll read the 2007 paper and post any questions I have. Thanks for your interest.