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Old 04-06-2009   #24 (permalink)
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Re: UFO evidence

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Originally Posted by stereologist View Post
A hoax is to put on a stunt that mystifies people. I see circular marks in my fields all the time. Deer do it. I ask my kids and their friends what made the marks. I never had one kid suggest it was aliens, mysterious vortices, crystal power, flying pyramids, harmonic convergences, ... whatever. Kids think dogs, deer, people, raccoons, and other animals.


That's why I ask the kids about the marks in the field. I want them to think about what they see. I see the deer getting up from t he fields and already know what made the marks.

An open mind does not mean open to frivolous notions. There is no need to consider the ridiculous before the common. Open mind does not mean beginning with the bizarre ideas first, or even considering some new and unknown forces, energies, ...

What I clearly recall when crop circles was big was the close mindedness of the crop circle researchers that were very clear that the crop circles could not be man made.
There you go then - you know that the cause of some crop circles are animals because you witnessed it. This is certainly different from people making claims about larger, man-made crop forms or those that appear to be made through microwave explanation from the way the stalks are bent, not broken (I'm not a scientist, so the explanation given for this by an expert in the field (no pun intended) in a documentary I saw on the subject could be an erroneous interpretation). All in all there could be many explanations for any effect e.g a hole in the ground could be caused by subsidence, a meteorite (unlikely but plausible), deliberately dug by man or animal, an uprooted plant, something else picked out of the ground like a rock etc.

As for another agency making crop circles - it's possible. As for what that could be, if true, is anybody's guess (This is not me saying aliens, earth forces etc. did make them, just that it is something we can't discount because we weren't there when they were all made - by this I mean anybody, supposed expert or not. This is why I keep on about personal experience, which you mention with the deer. If you see it, you know. If you don't you can only speculate, not know for sure (philosophical doubt). For instance the idea of unknown energies wouldn't fit the bill of the complex designs, which show intelligent design , so appear to be man made in the majority (fractals and the alien face, plus people signing their names) - if it's aliens, what is their motive for doing this? If it's humans it's obvious - to get attention and they've done it. By the way an open mind doesn't mean saying that aliens or earth energies caused the patterns, it means 'not knowing'. Calling it the Devils work is not knowing but trying to put a name on it, so that you can take your attention off it and put it somewhere else - if the imagination is aroused you can't do this (Like a magic trick, the mystery holds you in thrall).

The thing is they are works of art that inspire. Designs that capture the imagination like a good film or book.
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