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Re: Are We Responsible Caretakers of this Planet?

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Are We Responsible Caretakers of this Planet?

Perhaps a compelling sense of stewardship must come through religion. Rationality appears to be insufficient for creating a compulsion to sacrifice immediate gratification for such remote ends.
Religion needs education to ground it in reality though. Without a better understanding of reality, these religions (at least the fundamentalist ones) get some crazy ideas.

Just look at these [albiet political] fundamentalist ideas:
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Originally Posted by This Week--ABCNews--speaking with House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner
George Stephanopoulos:
What is the Republican plan to deal with carbon emissions, which every major scientific organization has said is contributing to climate change.

John Boehner:
George, the idea that carbon dioxide, uh is--is a carcinogen--that is harmful to our environment, is almost comical.
Every time we exhale, we exhale carbon dioxide. Every cow in the world--uh, you know, when they do what they do--you've got more carbon dioxide.
And so, I think that it's clear that we've had climate change over the last 100 years.

George: (slightly incredulously)
So you don't believe greenhouse gases are a problem in creating climate change?

John Boehner:
Listen, it's clear that we've had change in our climate. The question is: How much does man have to do with it--and what is the proper way to deal with this? We can't do it alone as one nation. If we've got India, China, and other industrialized countries--uh, not working with us--all we're going to do is ship millions of American jobs overseas.

George:
But is sounds like though, that from what you're saying, that you don't believe that the Republicans need to come up with a plan to control carbon emissions. You're suggesting that it's not that big of a problem, even though the scientific concensus is that....it has ...contributed to climate change.

John Boehner:
Well, I think it is big. I think it is an issue. The question is: What is the proper answer, and a responsible answer.

George:
And what is the answer? That's what I'm trying to get at.

John Boehner:
George, I think everyone in America is looking for the, uh proper answer.
We don't want to raise taxes 1.5-2 trillion dollars, like the administration is proposing, and we don't want to ship millions of American jobs overseas. And so, we've got to find ways to work towards this--the solution to this problem without risking the future of our kids and grandkids.
Yes, think about the future of our legacy--our kids and grandkids.
Then they went on to talk about Dick Army, leading teabagger protesting taxes to support the future.

...but I just had to share that great line:
George, the idea that carbon dioxide, uh is--is a carcinogen--that is harmful to our environment, is almost comical.
No, Mr. Boenher, it is--actually and totally--comical.
Maybe he just misspoke--about the carcinogenicity of CO2.

No wonder that they think low taxes, and third-world standards (to protect our jobs), are the solution to every problem.
...not that I'm seeing much, in the way of sensible alternatives, on any other side either.

Is this really the Republican level of understanding?
It certainly "is almost comical."

p.s. Two typos in one sentence!
Then they went on to talk about Dick Armey, leading teabaggers protesting taxes to support the future. ...and of course it's Boehner, not Boneher.

Last edited by Essay; 04-19-2009 at 10:52 PM.. Reason: add p.s.
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