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Originally Posted by modest
Your previous quote disagreed that clocks on the surface are slower than clocks further out and your quote here says clocks on the surface do tick slower than clocks further out.
~modest
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Ya I guess I am a bit

but hope we can work through it
However if you agree with my other statement that
Both the clocks*at the center and at an infinite distance would slow to a complete stop relative to the surface of a mass as it collapsed through its event horizon because relativity tells us that the differential gravitational forces they would experience at those points in space would be infinite.
Then the arguments I have presented are still valid. Could you please elaborate on any logical inconsistency which may invalidate them. Because if they are logically consistent within the confines of relativity then the assumption made by physicist that an event horizon is form when a star collapse is invalid.