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Re: Consciousness as a function of mental word use

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Originally Posted by Larv View Post
Two things here:

1. I'm not at all clear how one can be aware of a dream and be conscious at the same time. Isn't a dream a subconscious thing? As such, how can one be conscious of a dream?
Are you familiar with the concept of "lucid dreaming?"

Have you ever had experience of being in half dream state, half wake state (say upon first waking up) and continuing "plot" of dream in a conscious way?

How about day dreaming and fantasy? Are these not images and events that are not grounded in "this reality" while being directed by consciousness?

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2. The apple on the table would also be "the same visual" for a fly or an ant. So, in that regard, how do you differentiate human consciousness from that of an ant?
(Just speaking to the general topic, not necessarily the specific quote above.)
> While the visual is (arguably) the same for all eyes in the room, it is the interpretation and meaning that matters. IMO, it literally matters.
> And I don't believe it can be overstated how much it matters that the same eyes look upon "own self" interpreting that within context.
> I think conceiving of a distinction in consciousness is subconscious processing. That these distinctions may surface to level of consciousness, and be held with conviction (that there are individual, separate consciousness around me), is I believe subtle example of consciously being aware while (day) dreaming.
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