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Re: Let's talk topology

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Wait a minute, I protest! A neighborhood is not necessarily open!
Well, I grant you 2 things; first my definition was rather imprecise, and second there seems to be no agreement on this in the literature.

Let's go with this compromise, which I copy from Bishop & Goldberg Tensor analysis on Manifolds

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Originally Posted by Bishop & Goldberg
A neighborhood of x \in X is any A \subsetneq X such that x \in A^o. In particular, any open set containing x is a neighborhood of x
(my bolding).

I will happily concede my original definition was wrong iff it can be shown that, for any pair, say, of closed sets A \ne B that A^o = B^o. I doubt it, but I am not completely sure. Someone help me out here!

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In topology, so many roads lead to Rome.
How true.

While I am here, I promised this
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Originally Posted by me
A topological space that cannot be written as the union of 2 non-empty disjoint sets is said to be connected.

Alternatively, in a connected space, the only sets that are both open and closed are the base set and the empty set, say S and \O. It is a fun exercise to bring these two definitions into register.
So, here it is.

Suppose that X is connected by our second definition. Let A \subsetneq X, \, B \subsetneq X be open. Let X = A \cup B, and let A \cap B = \O (recall this is the the definition of disjointness).

Then of necessity, B = A^c \in X,\, A = B^c \in X, therefore A and B are also closed, which by our first definition means that X is not connected, a contradiction, and therefore our two definitions coincide.

PS Yikes!! I am losing my marbles, this not what I promised at all. Recall I defined the boundary of an arbitrary set A by \partial A = A^- \setminus A^o.

If A is both open and closed, then A = A^- = A^o \Rightarrow \partial A = A^- \setminus A^o \equiv A \setminus A = \O
And what if a set is neither open NOR closed?

Exercise for readers.

Last edited by Ben; 06-15-2009 at 11:04 AM..
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