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Re: Consciousness as a function of mental word use

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I would suggest looking at William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience." It explains exactly what the title says, that there are various ways of experiencing religion. Not all of them require language. It is James' assertion that they are just as valid as those that use language. Those of us who have participated in the "True Religion" thread on Hypography understand that in ways we can't explain to anybody who doesn't understand, simply because the experience has no language to attach to it. It is ineffable. A vast body of literature has attempted to effabulate it and has generally failed. That doesn't mean it isn't there. It just means it's outside the realm of language.
I will trust you when you say this happens. It hasn't ever happened to me that I know of, except maybe with a little acid here and there. But it all gives me concern because of Wittgenstein's central problem. "What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence."

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I'm starting to ramble in the way that people do when they start to talk about mysticism. Please forgive me.
Nay, it's all part of the debate, I think.


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