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Originally Posted by Larv
What silent revelation could a human have in the woods that a deer couldn't?
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How does this follow from what is being discussed?
If I pretend like I am following along, I would say in this moment, that silent revelation is very similar, if not same, for all conscious life and/or sentient beings. I'd tend to go with conscious life.
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I've never had the privilege of divine communication, so I wouldn't know for sure. But, yes, the noise a is subjective interpretation; it's the language that is objective.
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You've had divine communication. Everyone has. I find it implausible to not have it. But permissible to forget about it and/or disassociate with it.
What do you mean "language is objective?" Other than mathematics, I'm not sure I could agree.
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I used to think human consciousness had something to do with chakra or tantra or something like that, but I came to see that kind of approach as just another belief system. To me, the human consciousness inside Helen Keller was coaxed out and given voice on the back of a symbolic language. Nothing else could have helped here the way words helped her.
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You are talking to a "word" guy. I appreciate highly the written word. But at same time, my appreciation for "unspoken language" runs deep. I'm not saying one is inherently better, and thus far, I find it easier to communicate with humans via symbolic language. Yet Revelation, I find, feels instinctively natural and I believe precedes symbolic language each and every moment. I don't know about you, but I've had experience where symbolic language suddenly showed up as not making sense and while there could be several descriptions of what occurred in that moment for me, I find that symbolic language rests on faith first and logic second. Logic is in there, it's just secondary to what's really going on, in my experience.
